Marginalia

Gandhi vs. Ambedkar

Can caste be reformed — or must it be destroyed?

Period 1932 – 1956
✶ In the Atlas
Mahatma Gandhi

Reform from within

Untouchability is a sin that must be abolished, but varṇa — duty by birth without hierarchy — is a good law. Hinduism can be purified; separating the untouchables would divide it forever.

B. R. Ambedkar

Annihilation

Caste is a system of graded inequality sanctified by the Śāstras. It cannot be reformed while the scriptures keep their authority. The oppressed need political power, and may need to leave Hinduism.

The Exchange

who answered whom
  1. BR
    B. R. Ambedkar

    Give the depressed classes separate electorates, so they can elect their own representatives — not candidates chosen by caste Hindu voters.

  2. MG
    Mahatma Gandhi

    I will resist it with my life. Separate electorates will vivisect Hinduism. I begin a fast unto death.

  3. BR
    B. R. Ambedkar

    I sign the Poona Pact under duress, to save your life — and the lives of my people who would be blamed for your death. It is coercion, not conversion.

  4. MG
    Mahatma Gandhi

    Untouchability is the greatest blot on Hinduism. Let us call them Harijans, children of God, open the temples and wells, and purify ourselves.

  5. BR
    B. R. Ambedkar

    “Harijan” is condescension. Caste is not a division of labour but a division of labourers; it rests on the Śāstras. You must destroy their authority, as the Buddha and Nānak did.

  6. MG
    Mahatma Gandhi

    The Śāstras are not the true source of Hinduism; its saints are. Varṇa, rightly understood, gives each a duty, not a rank. Reform must come by changing hearts.

  7. BR
    B. R. Ambedkar

    Mahatmas have come and Mahatmas have gone, but the untouchables have remained untouchables. I was born a Hindu, but I will not die one.

The rounds compress twenty-four years: the Round Table Conferences and the Yerwada fast (1932), Annihilation of Caste and Gandhi’s reply in Harijan (1936), Ambedkar’s What Congress and Gandhi Have Done to the Untouchables (1945), and the conversion at Nagpur (1956). See Annihilation of Caste and Hind Swaraj.

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