Marginalia

Is There a Self? Nyāya vs. the Buddhists

Does memory prove an enduring self — or only a continuous stream?

Period 100 – 1100
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Gautama Buddha · Vasubandhu · Dharmakīrti

Pūrvapakṣa — the Buddhist view

There is no permanent self. What we call a person is a causal stream of momentary physical and mental events, named for convenience, like a chariot or a river.

Gautama Akṣapāda · Udayana

Siddhānta — the Nyāya reply

There is an enduring self — a substance distinct from body, senses and mind — that is the subject of knowing, remembering, desiring and acting.

The Exchange

who answered whom
  1. Gautama Buddha
    Gautama Buddha

    Look into each of the five aggregates — body, feeling, perception, formations, consciousness. Each is impermanent; none can be called “my self”. There is nothing else to find.

  2. GA
    Gautama Akṣapāda

    Then who recognises? I touch in the dark what I saw by daylight and know it is the same thing. Sight and touch are different senses; one subject must hold both experiences.

  3. V
    Vasubandhu

    Memory needs causal continuity, not identity. The later moment of the stream inherits the impression of the earlier, as a seed passes its nature to the fruit.

  4. U
    Udayana

    One person does not remember what another saw. If each moment is a different subject, memory is as impossible as my remembering your dream.

  5. D
    Dharmakīrti

    Your “enduring self” can do nothing, because whatever endures unchanged cannot be a cause. Only momentary things act. A permanent self would be idle.

  6. U
    Udayana

    And your momentariness cannot explain why karma reaches the right person, or why I desire what pleased me before. Desire presupposes one who remembers pleasure.

This debate follows the classical Indian form: first the opponent’s view (pūrvapakṣa) is stated at full strength, then refuted, then the conclusion (siddhānta) established. Here the Nyāya side is given the last word, as in a Nyāya text — but a Buddhist text would reverse the order. See Anattā (No-Self), Nyāya, and the What Is the Self? — The Indian Argument ladder.

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